It's bout fcuking time Well. finally, after 3 days of "eek it hurtz0rs!" today the hospital had enough complaining and gave Px a c-section. Oh and it was breech, and late etc. though since we changed to clear net we havnt maintained a webpage, so no pix for now and before you ask no i cbf getting a picbucket account etc. if someone wants to host a couple megs of random sprog pics, all good though Introducing: Lochlan Richard Gray born @ 12:39 pm 21/10.08 Weight 3840gm (8lb 7oz) arms, legs etc that's me, im knackered out watched the op though, fascinating.